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Yeah, sorry. Not sure why I mixed up that name.By Lauren do you mean Heather? Kinda confused here.
But then why did he get so horny thinking about this? If these were repressed memories, wouldn't he feel some disgust instead?Randall was traumatized by the events you speak of, never accepted it as normal and repressed it all.
He knew who he married and repressed that as well as he was so in love with her. He wanted all the skeletons
to stay in the closet. He just wanted a happy normal life with his soulmate. The women he loved more than anything.
He was wiling to accept anything as long as it all remained "Heather's Little Secrets".
Never said I hated her, at least.As for all the Becky hate.
If I'm understanding the timeline right, then she had to hold his hand several times? First after the events with his mother, then later when meeting Heather? If you had said that he subconsciously repressed the truth about Heather, that I could understand. Not wanting to see the truth would fit, but it isn't the same as "He knew who he married and repressed that as well as he was so in love with her"Becky was there for pretty much all of Randall's life growing up
as his best friend and confidant. She pretty much held his hand the entire course of his repression. She knew he
was in denial about everything.
I don't know... I have no idea if you're speaking with authority or if this is your own interpretation.I hope this helped![]()
Yeah, sorry. Not sure why I mixed up that name.
But then why did he get so horny thinking about this? If these were repressed memories, wouldn't he feel some disgust instead?
And, if he knew who Heather was before they married, he knew exactly what her children were. Why would he repress that as well, but then get horny about it after remembering?
Never said I hated her, at least.
Still, she has some explaining to do.
If I'm understanding the timeline right, then she had to hold his hand several times? First after the events with his mother, then later when meeting Heather? If you had said that he subconsciously repressed the truth about Heather, that I could understand. Not wanting to see the truth would fit, but it isn't the same as "He knew who he married and repressed that as well as he was so in love with her"
If he _knew_ then ignoring and repressing that fact makes it a conscious decision.
I don't know... I have no idea if you're speaking with authority or if this is your own interpretation.
"I have no idea if you're speaking with authority or if this is your own interpretation."Yeah, sorry. Not sure why I mixed up that name.
But then why did he get so horny thinking about this? If these were repressed memories, wouldn't he feel some disgust instead?
And, if he knew who Heather was before they married, he knew exactly what her children were. Why would he repress that as well, but then get horny about it after remembering?
Never said I hated her, at least.
Still, she has some explaining to do.
If I'm understanding the timeline right, then she had to hold his hand several times? First after the events with his mother, then later when meeting Heather? If you had said that he subconsciously repressed the truth about Heather, that I could understand. Not wanting to see the truth would fit, but it isn't the same as "He knew who he married and repressed that as well as he was so in love with her"
If he _knew_ then ignoring and repressing that fact makes it a conscious decision.
I don't know... I have no idea if you're speaking with authority or if this is your own interpretation.
In that case, thank you for taking the time to reply! <3Yes I am and no it's not![]()
I'll have to reply with a spoiler here. I'm specifically thinking about these lines:I'm not sure what you mean by "getting horny thinking about".. what exactly?
Was Becky planned this way from the start? When I played Christmas Eve, I didn't get the impression that the MC and Becky were life-long friends. I actually thought that Becky and Heather were friends first, and that her death brought them closer. (Helped by Heather pushing them together in an intimate way.)There are only 3 constants in Randall's life.
His love of his wife, his love of his daughters and his feelings for Becky.
Yeah... Until the last 15 minutes or so of the last update, I would've described NYD(e) as wholesome. Now, I'm not so certain anymore.NYD(e) is intended to be a very
thought provoking deep, yet fun story.
I don't entirely agree with that statement, but I don't want to derail this fun conversation with a bunch of subjective complaints.The thing I like to joke with Jonesy is, Randall isn't a walking hormone with a Viagra drip in his arm.
This I do agree with... Though, both Randall and the girls are playing fast and loose with the rule agreed upon with Eve, I think.Like so many other characters out there. He's a regular guy trying to do the best he can for his family.
That's fair... More or less. The thing is that Heather had no way of knowing _when_ Randall's past would come calling. And it doesn't look like Heather planned anything specific toward that end either. For all she knew, it would've happened 10 years from now.Everything Heather does is deliberate. With purpose. To break Randall's bubble and accept the reality
of their love and life. It wasn't Becky's place to do that. It's Becky's place to help pick Randall back up.
Like she did when he lost Molly.
This is going to be sooo funIn that case, thank you for taking the time to reply! <3
It's nice to talk with someone who knows about the intent behind the writing, since that's always the most difficult thing to pick up on (and convey).
I'll have to reply with a spoiler here. I'm specifically thinking about these lines:
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Was Becky planned this way from the start? When I played Christmas Eve, I didn't get the impression that the MC and Becky were life-long friends. I actually thought that Becky and Heather were friends first, and that her death brought them closer. (Helped by Heather pushing them together in an intimate way.)
Yeah... Until the last 15 minutes or so of the last update, I would've described NYD(e) as wholesome. Now, I'm not so certain anymore.
I mean, I know there won't be huge drama, hate, or revenge plots... That's not what I'm looking for anyway. Give me a nice slow-burn romantic story any time. I guess this reveal (for me) turned the story from almost whimsical into something more intense. But, and here's the rub... When tackling heavy topics like repressed trauma, they need to be done justice in a serious way as well. And exploring the MC's inner world and how he comes to term with everything could be an entire game/story in itself.
It's for this reason that I'm a bit miffed with Becky. She was playing with fire, though I also appreciate that she was between a rock and a hard place. As the only person who held all the pieces of the puzzle, I think it was also her responsibility to prepare Randall, maybe even the girls, for the reality of the situation.
As it is, she was very laissez-faire, mostly being there for the girls' side of things. Simultaneously, she had no way of knowing, of being 100% certain, that Randall recovering his repressed memories wouldn't blow everything up. (I'm sure the story will tell me I'm wrong, and that's fine. This is just what I think & feel at this point in the story.)
I don't entirely agree with that statement, but I don't want to derail this fun conversation with a bunch of subjective complaints.
This I do agree with... Though, both Randall and the girls are playing fast and loose with the rule agreed upon with Eve, I think.
"Or, like, you could go out with someone else we all know - or get to know. No strangers. That’d be weird. I wouldn't like that..."
That's fair... More or less. The thing is that Heather had no way of knowing _when_ Randall's past would come calling. And it doesn't look like Heather planned anything specific toward that end either. For all she knew, it would've happened 10 years from now.
Becky would have to realize that it would be better for everyone if Randall had actually processed his past before starting a sexual relationship with the girls? As it is, he's now seeing these relationships from two extremes. One as the loving father, the other as the traumatized son. And, like I said earlier, Becky (or Heather) can't be certain on which end of the spectrum he'd eventually fall. No matter how much he loves the girls, trauma has a way to sneak up on people and make them act irrationally. The girls aren't (or shouldn't) be a magical cure to this. (I'm not saying I'm convinced this is the route the story will take, just that I hope this /arc/ will have substantial meat on the bone.)
I should probably replay Christmas Eve again to refresh my memory. Also for my understanding of Randall and Becky's relationship.So it gets built up and built up until he is literally standing on a precipice at the start of Christmas Eve.
Just ready to implode. When he gets home after the cabin he comes to a choice. Keep bottling all this
up or go with the flow and just see where things go. He tries his best to keep some level of control over
it. Unlike other MCs in other stories, Randall never loses full control of himself or the situation.
I didn't. I think Randall is a bit like me, in that we don't care for transactional intimacy. Either you want to be intimate, or you don't, it shouldn't be a reward for being a good girl/boy, or for money.He doesn't want to hurt Becky or his girls. So yes, there are moments he slides a bit away from
their agreement, but he always snaps back in stead of indulging in this. I would love to know how
many of you accepted Miranda's sick job offer hahaha
I would. I've played a few AVN celibately, so playing a VN is not that much different in thet regard.One day you might get a Jonesy
story with no sex at all. Hopefully you will all still rush out to read that and enjoy it too.
We'll have to agree to disagree here. Like with Miranda, I wish we had a choice to stop Kim's advances then and there. The whole Chelsea thing also feels shoe-horned in to me. I don't think she has a place in Randall's inner circle, but there she is.I'm also pushing for a Chelshee and Kim adventure. So we shall see haha
Yeah, it's possible... I should refresh my memory about that.Yes Becky was always planned this way. if I remember right it was even established in
Christmas Eve just what their dynamic was when Heather planned a little fun time between everyone.
N "She continues,\"The daughter's of Mister [mclname] and other accomplices are also wanted by police."
Should be:
N "She continues,\"The daughters of Mister [mclname] and other accomplices are also wanted by police.\""
(two occurences)
I had already figured out who Heather was and who the father of the girls was but the stuff with the MC came out of left field.By Lauren do you mean Heather? Kinda confused here.
Randall was traumatized by the events you speak of, never accepted it as normal and repressed it all.
He knew who he married and repressed that as well as he was so in love with her. He wanted all the skeletons
to stay in the closet. He just wanted a happy normal life with his soulmate. The women he loved more than anything.
He was wiling to accept anything as long as it all remained "Heather's Little Secrets".
As for all the Becky hate. Heather confided everything in Becky. So yes Becky knew. They were bestfriends
sharing an intimate relationship with Randall. Becky was there for pretty much all of Randall's life growing up
as his best friend and confidant. She pretty much held his hand the entire course of his repression. She knew he
was in denial about everything. But you don't wake a sleepwalker, as they say. And she respected his boundaries
in that. As well as Heather's and their marriage. It's easy to get mad at her, but what would you do as someone
that close to the situation? A situation that may or may not have effected you're own outlook and "kinks".
Like Becky's relationship with Olivia, for instance.
It's not about being dumb or incapable. Randall has deliberately repressed these memories so that come out
in his dreams. Easy peasy
I hope this helped![]()
And don't forget about their mother.At this moment there are two maybe three characters that seem pretty despicable.
Well...I hope there was actual choice. I have no doubt they have feelings for the MC now but how much was because of Heather's tapes and the idea it was what their dear departed mother wanted for them influenced them?And don't forget about their mother.
not necessarily. at the moment there is no definitive time stated where MC started repressing memories. he easily could have reunited with Molly, shared what they missed out over the years, fell in love got married and then when she got sick, MC in fear of losing her all over again, his psyche fractured and he repressed all sorts of shit. not saying thats how it happened, but it easily could have. for all we know mom and pop could have only groomed MC and Molly but waited til they were legal, like how Heather was doing with Daye and Eve.I had already figured out who Heather was and who the father of the girls was but the stuff with the MC came out of left field.
For Heather to have known what was going on between the MC and his would imply it was going on before they split up as kids in the divorce.
Ah, I didn't mean Heather, but the MC's mother who he had an incestuous relationship with.Well...I hope there was actual choice. I have no doubt they have feelings for the MC now but how much was because of Heather's tapes and the idea it was what their dear departed mother wanted for them influenced them?
Were they just groomed? Fuck this whole thing could be sideways.
At least Kay developed feelings on her own. UNLESS something ELSE comes out of left field.
If this is accurate (and I have no reason to believe it isn't):at the moment there is no definitive time stated where MC started repressing memories.
Then he repressed pretty much everything related to his past. Except for Becky's role as a friend and confidante.He knew who he married and repressed that as well as he was so in love with her. He wanted all the skeletons
to stay in the closet. He just wanted a happy normal life with his soulmate. The women he loved more than anything.
That is still horrifically fucked but is just an assumption given the information we have which points to my conclusion atm. I hope I'm wrong but if you follow the currently available info from A to B...not necessarily. at the moment there is no definitive time stated where MC started repressing memories. he easily could have reunited with Molly, shared what they missed out over the years, fell in love got married and then when she got sick, MC in fear of losing her all over again, his psyche fractured and he repressed all sorts of shit. not saying thats how it happened, but it easily could have. for all we know mom and pop could have only groomed MC and Molly but waited til they were legal, like how Heather was doing with Daye and Eve.
I know. I just had that thought after I reread the last line of my original post.Ah, I didn't mean Heather, but the MC's mother who he had an incestuous relationship with.
Some nuance here. In Christmas Eve, the MC says he's 42. I think Heather is either the same age, or older. At least she seems older compared to Randall in his dreams.That is still horrifically fucked but is just an assumption given the information we have which points to my conclusion atm. I hope I'm wrong but if you follow the currently available info from A to B...
"The whole Chelsea thing also feels shoe-horned in to me."I should probably replay Christmas Eve again to refresh my memory. Also for my understanding of Randall and Becky's relationship.
I didn't. I think Randall is a bit like me, in that we don't care for transactional intimacy. Either you want to be intimate, or you don't, it shouldn't be a reward for being a good girl/boy, or for money.
I would. I've played a few AVN celibately, so playing a VN is not that much different in thet regard.
We'll have to agree to disagree here. Like with Miranda, I wish we had a choice to stop Kim's advances then and there. The whole Chelsea thing also feels shoe-horned in to me. I don't think she has a place in Randall's inner circle, but there she is.
If the "would you rather"-game had the choice between Daye+Kaylee and Eve+Kaylee, I would've gone for Eve. But she teamed up with Chelsea, so I went for Daye instead. I also found it strange that later, Randall just laughs it off when Eve is showing Chelsea her first time, as a kind of instruction video, while he was angry with her irresponsibility a few days earlier.
Yeah, it's possible... I should refresh my memory about that.
Edit:
Could you relay this correction?
Код:N "She continues,\"The daughter's of Mister [mclname] and other accomplices are also wanted by police." Should be: N "She continues,\"The daughters of Mister [mclname] and other accomplices are also wanted by police.\"" (two occurences)
Nah, don't tell me. That's Jonesy's story to tell.No no haha. Chelsea was not only intended from the beginning, she holds a deep personal
place with Jonesy and me. Especially Jonesy. She's actually inspired by someone. I'll leave that a mystery
for now, and no it's not me haha Maybe if you really want to know, I'll tell you haha
Yeah, that was hilarious! Though, it also showed that the girls aren't 100% on-board with her. Eve was even acting as if she were still sleeping just to get a moment of peace and quiet from Chelsea. I doubt that's something you do to someone you love. So, if they're just normal friends, then Chelsea really didn't have a place there the night before.And I do love that moment
where she's leaving and her mom is in the car. That scene was epic haha
That could be fun! However, then I hope their story with Randall stops here. If Chelsea gets included in the harem, then it makes little sense for her to (for instance) explore her sexuality in a different game with other people.Not more interactions with them in NYD(e). But their own story. New characters, new situations, more tales
from Jonesyville.
The thing is... If his relationship with his mother was consensual and something he wanted... Why would he black it out?I won't say Randall and his Mom was or wasn't. Because that's a non issue. As "man of the house", Randall
took his father's role in many ways. Let that sit as you will.
I think that's unfair. If Jonesy starts a story and clearly states that the girls aren't the MC's and will hook up with other people, then it is what it is. Instead, he has the girls promise the MC that he'll be "their first and only", which shapes the expectations of players.I want more guys introduced but you guys make that impossible.
The consensus is, if any of the girls - not just Eve, Daye or Kaylee (which won't happen) gets a boyfriend
you guys will riot. It's a chain around any writers neck when they try to create deep worlds and have forced
to stick with one guy and a hundred girls, because one more guy will piss your reader base off.
Way too old man. Eve was barely 2 when Heather was already heavy with Daye when they reconnected. Daye is 18 in game.Some nuance here. In Christmas Eve, the MC says he's 42. I think Heather is either the same age, or older. At least she seems older compared to Randall in his dreams.
With Eve being 20, Heather would've been at least 21 when daddy knocked her up, and 24-25 when getting pregnant with Daye. If that was an abusive relationship, it makes me wonder why she stayed that long. So I'm inclined to think that she went looking for Randall after something happened with that relationship. They reconnected when Randall was 23-24, soon after he knocked up Kay's mom.